Podcast Drop Date: 5/15/2024
Many of our patients share that they feel overwhelmed by life's challenges, with stress and anxiety taking a significant toll. Stress can be a real threat to our health, but how do we manage it when the odds seem stacked against us?
In the latest episode of the Functional Medicine Foundations Podcast, host Amber Warren PA-C engages in a deep conversation with Certified Trauma-Informed Breathwork Guide, Faith Duckett. Together, they explore the powerful method of regulating the nervous system through intentional breathwork practices. Faith provides insights into the importance of creating distraction-free spaces in our lives and the profound benefits of immersive retreat experiences.
Tune in to discover a pathway to peace and resilience through mindful practices and nurturing environments.
Transcript:
Amber Warren, PA-C: Welcome to the Functional Medicine Foundations podcast, where we explore root cause medicine, engage in conversation with functional and integrative medicine experts, and build community with like minded health seekers. I'm your host, Amber Warren. Let's dig deeper. Hey, welcome back everybody. We're here at our Meridian location. Um, hanging out in the lobby where we have our beautiful kitchen. So, um, we're happy to be back in Meridian filming today's podcast. So today, I have Faith with me. Um, Faith is, um, a certified, trauma informed breathwork guide and an artist. She has the honor and privilege of holding sacred space for people just like you as they dive deep into their own bodies through the power of their breath. As a guide, she helps to facilitate a safe place for everyone to heal in their limited beliefs. Relief. Trauma. Find relaxation deep within your body and surrender to the power that everybody holds each and every one of us. Hold on to so much wisdom from within our body. When we allow ourselves to come to stillness, we're able to embody the wisdom that lives within. As an intuitive artist, she creates space for clients to explore their own creativity through the power of safety. Over the years, she has heard countless times that people make the statement that they're not artistic in any way, and she doesn't believe that to be true.
Amber Warren, PA-C: It's through our own limited beliefs that we block our own creativity and ability to allow creativity to flow through us. Art is such a beautiful way to embody, to expand and to release through guided sessions. She empowers those who work with her to lean into the expressions that are to be called. In front of the embodiment level. We explore joy, empowerment, sadness, grief, anger, and so much more. It's such a beautiful bio.
Faith Duckett: Thank you.
Amber Warren, PA-C: And I got to experience. I actually attended one of your Somatic Breathwork sessions. Is that last summer? Yeah, it was like nine months ago and it was so. And to be honest, I mean Faith. I used what I learned in that session, and I think I always thought I knew how to breathe, right. Especially as a health care practitioner that focuses so much on stress relief. And, um, but man, most of us don't. Yeah. Like I truly left being like, I don't know how to take deep breaths. Yeah. Um, so, so good and so powerful. And you're doing so much good work. It's wonderful. So how did you get into this field? Share with us how you arrived here.
Faith Duckett: Yeah. Thank you. Um, well, first of all, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Um, yeah. So I really got to this place because of my own story. Um, as a child, I grew up in a household that was filled with mental illness and addiction, and I truly never felt safe in my home. And so what that alluded to is then as I, you know, went into adolescence and into my teen years into young adult, I really struggled with a lot of things that I needed, I needed answers to. And that was, you know, I was a constant people pleaser. I was totally codependent. I would always look to the outside of like, if everybody else was good, then I was okay to be good. Yeah. Um, and so I felt, you know, quote unquote lost for a really long time. And so I felt at the point of finding breathwork, I had read all the books, I done all the things. Mindset work is beautiful, right? Um, but I really didn't feel like I could actually tell what was going on inside of my body, didn't feel connected to my body because I had disassociated for so long. I really didn't know actually what was my truth. And so I was going to a yoga studio and I happened to walk in and there was a poster on the wall that said Psychedelic Breath. And I was like, what is this like? This is a yoga studio. Like, it was so confusing, but there was this curiosity, and so there was something inside of me that just said, get yourself in the room, like, get yourself in the room. And I don't say this lightly, but the version of myself that walked in that room that day was not the same version that walked out.
Amber Warren, PA-C: And how old were you when you had this?
Faith Duckett: I this was six years ago now. Okay. Yeah. So I it was the first time that actually, really, truly could feel what was going on inside of my body from a place of like, wow, like there is actually a connection. You know, I'd hear people talk about it and I would just really didn't understand what they were talking about. Um, about feeling connected and having this, you know, intuition. Like, sure enough, I would like, you know, things would come in my mind or my heart and I'd be like, okay, whatever. Like, we got to make sure everybody else is good, you know? Um, and so I really, truly was able to feel what was actually going on in my body and listen for the very first time. And it was at that moment that I was like, this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to help people see the incredible power that they hold in themselves, like it's we look so much on the outside for validation, for security, for feeling enough for, you know, wanting to feel like where I am is okay to be. And when you land in the power of your breath, it truly is that ability to like, be reminded of, like I am enough now here in this moment and really connect to yourself. So in the short, that's how I, I got here.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Cool. And you feel like you, you learned how to breathe in the session?
Faith Duckett: Really, truly I you know, it was kind of one of those of like what on earth just happened? And how do I get more of that? And that just kind of set the trajectory of like, I want to know everything about what breathwork is. I want to know, I want to figure out and find out how I can implement this in my life every single day. And so, um, I, you know, it unfolded. Into this journey of where I am today. And, you know, I really think that any time we're holding space for anybody, it starts with us. And so it's been this incredible journey in my own skin, um, to be able to, you know, root myself in a place of, you know, being really grounded in my own body and who I am to be able to hold that space for other people. And it's just an honor. And I am so privileged every time I get to land with somebody in their breath. That's amazing.
Amber Warren, PA-C: I can tell you're so passionate about it.
Faith Duckett: Yeah. Thank you.
Amber Warren, PA-C: So let's just break it down. Yeah. Breathwork. Because I say it all the time. You know, ways that we can calm down your nervous system and help to fix your hormones. Like walk outside, be in nature, Earth, do breathwork. But I'm realizing now, even talking to you like I probably need to break that down. Yeah. You know, yeah, it's kind of like saying eat healthy. What does that mean? Just do breathwork. Well, I don't know where to start. Yeah. So let's help people know kind of where to start.
Faith Duckett: Yeah. So, um, I think it's important to like, break down a little bit of the science of, like, what breathwork actually is. Um, so when we're tapping into our breath, especially somatic breathwork. So coming of the body, somatic breathwork is really that active meditation. Um, and so what we're doing is we're tapping into, like you said, regulating our nervous system. And so as we can focus on our breath and connect to our breath, we're actually sending a signal to our brain of like, hey, you're safe to relax, right? Like years ago, as we were cavemen, we would go out into the jungle and our sympathetic nervous system would come online because the threat of being actually chased by a lion was very real. Right. And so as we tapped into that sympathetic nervous system, we went and gathered our food, came back to our cave. Our parasympathetic nervous system could come back online. The threat is no longer there, and we could go about our day in modern society. Now, we often are living from the sympathetic nervous system standpoint right between our to do lists, our activities outside of, you know, our work. You know, as a mom, as, you know, a dad, it doesn't you know, it doesn't really matter.
Amber Warren, PA-C: We're talking offline about social media, children. Yeah. The distraction, the constant distraction.
Faith Duckett: Um, we've really, truly lost the ability to create the space for us to feel right. Like even when we have a lull, the first thing so many of us do, we're all guilty of it at times is get our phone out. Yeah, right. And so when we're creating this space through our breath, when we're actually tapping into our breath, what we're doing is we're sending a signal as we focus on our on that conscious breath, we're sending a signal to our brain of like, hey, you're actually not being chased by a lion, right? And we can tap into that parasympathetic nervous system. And as we tap into the parasympathetic nervous system, it gives our ability, our body, the ability to rest, to digest, to, you know, come to the space of ease. And what I really know to be true is our trauma, our limited beliefs, the things that we have not processed really live in our tissue. Amen. Fully. Yeah. And so, you know, as we're living in this sympathetic nervous system in a day to day, you know, we've got digestive issues, we've got high blood pressure, we have anxiety, we're suffering from a lot of stress. We're not giving ourself the space to just land. And so truly when we're tapping into our breath, that is what we're doing. We're giving ourselves the ability to not only create the consciousness within our own system, but regulating our nervous system from a deep, deep level within our within our bodies.
Amber Warren, PA-C: So scientifically speaking, yeah. How does that somatic breathwork differ from just like a meditative state?
Faith Duckett: Yeah, I love this question. So, um, meditation, we talk about meditation as being more of a top down approach. Right. So when you're meditating you're not necessarily trying to get the thoughts just quiet, but you're trying to get them to come to be calm and to become at ease. Right? Often it's hard for people to just, you know, land on their mat and go into that deep meditative state. And so what we're doing when we're meditating is that exactly when we're when our mind can come to ease, we're able to then find that connection to our body and then tap into that again. For a lot of people, that's really hard to do. And the different approach about breathwork is we call it a bottom up approach. So once you're focusing on your natural breath, you know, creating that safety within your own body, focusing on your own natural breath, you're then sending a signal up into your mind of like, hey, again, you're not being chased by a lion. You actually can come to ease. And so we're not fighting with the mind. Our mind is this beautiful, beautiful gift, right? It's this beautiful thing and our mind is here to keep us safe. And so as we're tapping into something we've never done before, as we're landing in maybe something, you know, that feels really heavy, our mind is going to want to loop. Right. And so if we can send the signal from a loving space of like, you actually can rest like it's okay, we're then able to tap into that parasympathetic nervous system from such a beautiful, whole hearted space without the fight of trying to, quote unquote, quiet your mind. Right. And so breathwork really is an active meditation. Um. I love to meditate, but I need to tap into my breath first before I can really drop into that to that state. It helps.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Get you there sooner, more quickly, and probably stay there in a more successful.
Faith Duckett: Way. And the biggest thing, um, you know, as a guide myself, the biggest thing is creating that safety, the safety for a breather to land. And as that breather, the biggest thing for them to be able to to land in their bodies is creating the safety for themselves. And so really, when you're able to tap into that safety by sending the signal to your brain to, like, actually be able to land on your mat, it creates just this beautiful ability to have this coherence and capacity to hold yourself in such a beautiful way and your conscious the entire time, like you're always in control. I think that's one of the things that people struggle with at times of like, you know, I have a lot to work through. Like, you know, I'm scared, you know, and it's like, that totally makes sense. And your body's not going to give you anything that you can't handle. And so it gets to be gentle. It gets to be, you know, you get to be held. It gets to be safe, and you get to control, you know what? How fast, how slow, how, you know, however, whatever looks good for you and feels good in your body, that's that's the capacity that we're going to hold. So.
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Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah, my favorite part about the somatic breathing the breathwork, even even, you know, meditation, all of it is, you know, I work with so many patients that like, they can't handle one more to do the nutritional recommendations, adding on exercise, taking the supplements, doing the protocol is so overwhelming for them. But being able to just calm down the nervous system and bring in the breathwork. It's 3 or 4 minutes in bed, it's in the car at a stoplight. It's during your morning routine, right? I mean, am I right? Like, there's so many benefits to just even working in a couple minutes here and there to help get your nervous system calmed down. So for those patients who are like, I don't even like you were kind of alluding to, I don't even know where to start. I've got so much I know I'm storing and I'm holding on to so much. How do you recommend they start? What's a good starting place that's not overwhelming?
Faith Duckett: Yeah. So I always tell people, you know, if you've got three minutes especially like even a minute, I mean, if you've if you've got one minute and the best, the best time to really start a breath, practice I always say is first thing in the morning. So, you know, first thing you get up, maybe drink a glass of water, put your feet on the ground, sit on the side of your bed if that feels most supportive. And just take really deep breaths. Deep breath in through your nose and slowly out your mouth and just focus on, like rooting your feet on the ground, you know, giving yourself the space to just feel what it feels like. What's actually present in my body. Yeah. You know, where where am I right now? You know, often people when I talk to people about, you know, when they come in, I ask them, you know, how's your morning? Often people wake up anxious. I know, you know. How do you go to sleep at night? I have a really hard time getting my mind to quiet. Those are the two most beautiful times to be able to connect to your breath. Um, and so I always say starting out first thing in the morning is the most beautiful place, because you're kind of in that in-between state anyway. You know, you're kind of, you know, you're awake, but you're still nice and relaxed. Um, again, if you wake up feeling pretty anxious, you can give yourself the ability to, like, start your day from a grounded position, and there's no wrong way to do it. I always tell people like, you know, there's, you know, do I do this or how do you do that? And how do I know if I'm breathing correctly? And it's like, no, if we can just take it one step at a time. If you're breathing in and you're breathing out, you can't do it wrong.
Amber Warren, PA-C: So you're not one that's like diaphragmatic. Don't let your chest rise. Don't like, you're like, just chill on all the details and just breathe, if that.
Faith Duckett: If that's what's hard for you to just be able to take that and create that space. Absolutely. And then I would say, you know, I would say, place your hand on your heart and or your belly and like, feel your belly expand on your inhale because so many of us are breathing from this space of like, you know, just like almost hyperventilating in our day to day, if you can actually breathe from your diaphragm, if you can create that space to actually breathe and connect to your breath, you know it. Anything is possible, you know? And I think you bring up such a beautiful point, too. I wanted to add is like, you know, having a one on one session or a group session with a practitioner such as myself is so beautiful, and it's so much more important to be able to integrate it into your day. So like you touched on it, like when you're stopping at a stoplight, when you're, you know, first thing in the morning, like we talked about before, you're going to have a really hard conversation with maybe a loved one when you're going to talk to your boss and, you know, maybe you're feeling really nervous, like connecting to your breath and really reminding yourself of what's actually present and what's just the story in my mind. You know, so many of us were stopped at the stoplight. We're running late. The story in our mind is like, oh my gosh, like all these things are going to happen. And this is like the worst thing ever in my day is like all the things. And if we could just, like, connect to it and remind ourselves like our truth right now, like the truth and the matter is like there's nothing that we can do in this moment, right? Except breathe and guess what?
Amber Warren, PA-C: The story will go on. I will show up. Yeah, the meeting will still happen. The kids are going to be five minutes late for school. Worst case scenario, they're five minutes late from school. Exactly. And they're walking in tardy like, yeah, to get yourself all worked up. Yeah. No, I know it's such a good reminder. It's almost like it makes me think. And this is probably totally off topic and a little out there, but like this concept of time, like, I hate that we're so such slaves to the time of when we have to. I mean, the world. You have to have some kind of organization. But it's such a it feels like such an enemy to us. Yeah. Like a trap. Yeah. That we that everything has to be like, I love weekends and we try to. My husband and I try to not plan on the weekend because I'm like, I don't want to necessarily have to be anywhere at a certain time. Yeah, spontaneous dinner date comes up or friends come over for dinner, I love that. Yeah, but like to plan something and you're like, oh, it's three. Better get the meat ready. And oh, I better, better shower and do my hair like all the things. It's it's such an interesting concept to feel like you're such a slave to a clock. Yeah, all the time.
Faith Duckett: All the time.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah. It's wild. Yeah.
Faith Duckett: It's beautiful that you can create that space that you don't have to be. Yeah, yeah.
Amber Warren, PA-C: I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying. So tell us more about the work that you do. You, you hold workshops. Do you hold one on one sessions. Yeah. What about people that aren't here in the Treasure Valley? Can you connect with people? Virtually.
Faith Duckett: Yeah. Cool. Yep. So I do one on one sessions in person in downtown Boise. Um, I do one on one sessions over zoom. Um, I meet with people all over the world, which is so beautiful. I love I love technology for being able to have the accessibility. It's it's absolutely beautiful. Um, and one on ones is really kind of where I, um, I hold a lot of one on ones, which I love, and I love it for so many reasons. But the biggest reason is. To be able to witness people for a longevity for a period of time, to really, like, go deep into what's present is so rewarding. It's so beautiful to be able to hold that space for people. So I love doing one on ones. I do group workshops all the time here in the Treasure Valley area. Um, I also am willing to go other places, but mainly here in the Treasure Valley as of now. Um, and I love that as well. I love holding workshops because it's so beautiful to come together as a community. I think sometimes people, you know, they enjoy the one on one and they're a little bit nervous about doing the group sessions, and then they get in a group session. They're like, actually like, that was really beautiful, right? There's a vulnerability in it, but there's also so much beauty.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Well, there's so much data in healing as a community. Absolutely. Being in numbers in a community like you cannot deny that that science that's there. So I can see that there's probably a lot of power in those groups, those group sessions.
Faith Duckett: And it's really neat too, because I always, I always, um, make an effort to, to give space at the end where we can, you know, share and we can connect and really, like, authentically relate to each other. Um, and it's so neat. I've had so many people come up to me after and say, you know, I was nervous to share in the group, but, you know, once I did or once I heard so and so story like I realized, like I wasn't alone in feeling this way or I resonated so much with that person's story like we do. As you said, we we heal so beautifully in a community, you know, based, um, situation. And it's it's so neat to see who comes into those groups, to see kind of how, you know, sometimes there's nerves. And in the end it's like you've met a new friend or friends, you know, it's really neat. I really, really enjoy that. And I hope in the near future to start doing retreats. I really, really, really feel like there's a need for a deep reset and the ability to just connect to self in a prolonged period of time. So yeah, that's definitely coming.
Amber Warren, PA-C: The retreat idea is so intriguing to me. Um, because I think that people don't realize their innate ability to heal because they're stuck in this. Tornado of an environment where life is just so chaotic and crazy, and I think it sometimes takes people to get out of their environment and put them in a place, a healing place and be like, this is how you can feel. This is how you should feel and this is how you deserve to feel. Absolutely. You deserve to feel calm. You don't deserve to feel on fire and anxious and reactionary all the time. One of my biggest concerns is, as we're seeing that just the shift in, in, in our world is people. And we touched on this earlier. A little is people are so out of touch with their own bodies and their own body's responses. And it's really concerning to me. Um, you know, we've got all these wearables that tell us when we're anxious or when we don't have good heart rate variability or when our cortisol is high or low. I mean, if we have a wearable that tells us about cortisol, cortisol, but I'm sure it's coming and I'm like, oh no. Um, people don't have to know how they feel anymore. They don't have to be in touch with their body anymore. Yeah. Um, and that's where the power of breathwork comes in, right? Because you force yourself to get in tune.
Faith Duckett: Yeah, well, and I really, truly believe if you want to feel better, we have to be better healers. Yeah. And so, you know, I think not only does breathwork give us the ability to connect to self from that standpoint, but it also gives us such a solid foundation to be able to show up for our loved ones in a way that is authentic. That's real. Right? If we're walking around as parents, as leaders, as spouses, in a hyper active state all the time, and that sympathetic nervous system, we can't possibly not only show up for ourselves in a authentic way and from like a grounded space, but we're not able to show up for our loved ones in that space. It's such a good point. And so I think it's so important not only for our own health, obviously, which is hugely important, but for the ability to show up as the parent that we want to show up as show up as a leader, that we want to show up as, create that space and that solid foundation within our own self. And, you know, I think so often we're going around from these different experiences that we've experienced in these having these limited beliefs of like what's possible, what's actually not possible, you know, going through trauma that we've gone through, like, what are the disconnect that we have that we're holding on to that actually is no longer serving us. It's just that story. And so as we tap into our breath, we're able to write, peel back that onion of like, what actually is my truth? Like, what's the story I've been telling myself? Where have I been living? What are the falsehoods? Yeah.
Faith Duckett: What the false sense of like, this is actually true and like what actually is true now. Right. And so it taps into so many different things that are so important and it can feel really overwhelming. But as we talked about in the beginning, like our body is only going to show us what we can actually handle in that moment. And so it gets to be gentle. You get to titrate that experience. And I think that's what's so incredible about holding a space of like a retreat, because it takes a long time for our mind and our body to titrate the experiences that we go through in a breathwork session. We move a lot of energy in those sessions. And so where it's so nice to have that time in a workshop or a one on one, I always tell people, if you have the ability to take the next couple hours and, you know, have that silence or the ability to be just really gracious with within yourself, um, do so. But I think when you're in a retreat standpoint, when you're in that space to have, you know, the space where you can just be with yourself, it's so beautiful to be able to to connect and to be able to titrate and give yourself that space that you deserve.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah. No, I follow you on Instagram and some of you're just I know they're very spontaneous and unplanned, but some of the things that I know are just put on your heart to share. Like the world needs to hear some of your messages. Thank you. Because they're such good reminders in the hustle bustle of our crazy weeks and our crazy days just to be like, be still, be present. Yeah, like, you know, be intuitive and listen to your body. And what a gift. Um, you know, I'm even just thinking out loud here, like, I'm thinking about how I respond to my kids. Just what I've learned from my own, like, nervous system journey and breathwork journey. Even just what I've learned from you to, like, get on eye level with my children when they're anxious and when they get worked up about something like baby breathe, watch mama breathe, or I lay in bed with them at night and we're saying our prayers, but we're, you know, breathing together like, yeah, what a gift we can share with this next generation to help keep them calm and help keep, keep, you know, help them view the world absolutely calm way. Yeah. Do you do you ever do like children workshops? Like or like mom and me. Like that would be really cool.
Faith Duckett: Yeah, that's actually something that I've really I've really been thinking about a lot more, especially lately having a teenager myself and having a pre-teen, um, kids.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Need to breathe.
Faith Duckett: Kids need to breathe. And, you know, you'd be surprised. The younger kiddos, um, they do have, like, if you actually watch them, you know, you can you can sense their you can see their breathing. It does become, you know, really rapid when they become anxious. Oh yeah. But they have a better ability of being able to regulate themselves. I feel like as they get into like that pre-teen and teenage years, it's picking up the phone. It's going on social media, video games.
Amber Warren, PA-C: The kids seven, eight, nine year olds hopefully haven't been so become dysregulated yet. They haven't had their nervous systems jacked around with yet. Well, and.
Faith Duckett: They're a lot more connected to themselves from a different space because of that.
Faith Duckett: But yeah.
Faith Duckett: True. Yeah. So and and just to kind of go back to like what breathwork, what makes it so powerful is when we're tapping into that conscious breath right? In a session, we're connecting to that conscious breath. We're going through a breath pattern. You're getting cues by a practitioner such as myself, and we're using music and movement. And I think what's so beautiful is when you when you tap into your body from a space of your breath, from intuitive movement, you know, you're lying on your mat. But it's not a stillness practice. You don't have to be there still, right? Um, you're able to connect to your body in such a whole hearted way, um, that I think breathwork really, truly is for anybody and everybody.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah. So that is.
Amber Warren, PA-C: You're right. That's a really good point. One of the most beautiful things not everybody has the, unfortunately, affordability to go to a gym and get a great workout in or you know, take a big supplement protocol or eat organic food, but everybody can breathe.
Faith Duckett: Yeah.
Amber Warren, PA-C: And breathe in the right way. Yeah.
Faith Duckett: And you'd be shocked of how regulating your nervous system, obviously, as you know, on a regular basis, like being able to catch the cues of, you know, when you're starting to feel anxious, you know, or catch the cue of when you feel like you're going to have to have a hard conversation or.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Or make a big decision in your life.
Faith Duckett: Or make a big decision.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah, that's a lot of times when I'm like, use the the breathwork and the heartmath. Um, just anything to help calm your nervous system when you have a really big decision to make. You know, it's yeah, it really helps to get you into the right mind space.
Faith Duckett: And even on the flip side of that, like, it's not just for, you know, the overwhelm and all those, but like really being able to allow yourself to tap into the joy and to the abundance and the gratitude of like, being present.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah, yeah.
Faith Duckett: The presence of it, I mean, that's really what it is, is bringing yourself back to this present moment. And so being able to tap into all of it and the reminder that none of it is bad and wrong, like in this human experience, we are gifted to have the ability to to experience it all. Yeah. And why not experience it all from a present state within our body, in our own authenticity? Yeah. You know.
Faith Duckett: So yeah, yeah.
Amber Warren, PA-C: What a cool journey you've been on and your ability to just bless people and help people to heal. And I just love, you know, what we do. Our work is so different, but it works so well together. And like, I'm not your your gifts or your gifts. And I love recommending your workshops and just even recommending your social media to be like this. This will help guide you because I don't want them to feel overwhelmed, which is one more thing I have to do. Yeah. Um, so yeah, what you're doing is so wonderful. How can people find find you and find out more about you and your workshops?
Faith Duckett: Yeah.
Faith Duckett: Thank you. Um, so I'm on Instagram, um, Faith painted soul. Okay. Um, and then I do have a website. My first and last name, Faith Duckett. Calm. Cool.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Yeah. Wonderful.
Amber Warren, PA-C: Well, thank you so much for your time. It's such a wonderful discussion. Thanks, everybody. Thank you for listening to the Functional Medicine Foundations podcast. For more information on topics covered today, specialties available at the FMI Center for Optimal Health and the highest quality of supplements and more. Go to funmedfoundations.com.
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